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Name editing
I thought I would give a bit of information for anyone who would like to have free rein on editing names.
If you see any part on the website that either doesn't have a name, or you think the name could be better, please do submit a name change request via the edit form. We want the parts to be named in plain English, in the same way that you would speak them. So for example, "Round Plate with Hole" instead of "Plate, Round with Hole". If you think of any keywords that might apply, for example the theme or set it was used in or a minifigure it came in, you can add them as tags.
If you want to change the names in a specific category, if you go to any item in that category, for example a technic gear http://brickowl.com/catalog/lego-technic-gear-8-tooth-type-1-3647#edit after you have submitted your change, there is a link at the bottom to view the next technic gear. That way you can go through all of the items in one category fairly quickly by submitting and clicking next each time.
By having names that are plain English instead of structured, this does mean that if you sort by name it will not sort them into similar parts. We will be in fermenting category sorting on everywhere that is applicable so names can be names and categories can be used for sorting.
If you see any part on the website that either doesn't have a name, or you think the name could be better, please do submit a name change request via the edit form. We want the parts to be named in plain English, in the same way that you would speak them. So for example, "Round Plate with Hole" instead of "Plate, Round with Hole". If you think of any keywords that might apply, for example the theme or set it was used in or a minifigure it came in, you can add them as tags.
If you want to change the names in a specific category, if you go to any item in that category, for example a technic gear http://brickowl.com/catalog/lego-technic-gear-8-tooth-type-1-3647#edit after you have submitted your change, there is a link at the bottom to view the next technic gear. That way you can go through all of the items in one category fairly quickly by submitting and clicking next each time.
By having names that are plain English instead of structured, this does mean that if you sort by name it will not sort them into similar parts. We will be in fermenting category sorting on everywhere that is applicable so names can be names and categories can be used for sorting.
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Almost need a taxonomy guide for part, subtype, size, features, etc.
Brian
Ultimately I'm on the other end hitting approve/disapprove with reason so I can advise people if I think the name change won't be an improvement.
One remark/question/thought...., We store are bricks by category..., hope the general line will stay the same.... (so wedge plates (cut corner)) are in a different box than plates round (cut corner)... or do the all become "adapted" plates.... (plate modified)....., this would really make things complex logistically.....
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I mean a cat is a cat whichever way you look at it.
I have a conscience and it has the power %-(
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How is a huge collection of LEGO Unnamed Part 1234 helpful to resubmitting details? :-/
Brian
Maybe Wedge(Wing) could be broken into Flat, Standard, Decorated, and Inverted?
Brian
Mammal - Four legged, Pointy ears, tail, domesticated house pet, undog
LOL. Sorry, I had to.
I'm jumping on board to help with names, like others just trying to find my sea legs first.
@Admin, you are going above and beyond, we appreciate all your hard work.
No forum reading for at least the rest of the day.....
Just remind myself that rejections don't matter and go.
Be one with the brick.... na na na na na na...
I am not stalling...
Brian
@The Hellmouth if the part only existed on BL it now has no name unless a user has previously entered the name.
With short names, like Harry Potter mini figure, there is only one way to say that. With long names, there is usually more ways to say it. What I would say is, if an item has a picture, try to name the item by looking at the picture as for example a mother would if they had the item in their hand and wanted to go on the Internet to buy it. However, please don't name it "Lego Thingy-ma-bob"
i.e. BL version:
Green V-Neck Sweater, Dark Brown Legs, Dark Brown Short Tousled Hair, Safety Goggles
My version: Green sweater with V neck, Dark Brown legs, Dark Brown Short Messy hair, Safety Glasses
Is this acceptable?
And no doubt your hand is tired, hopefully you still have some hair left too! This has got to be a trying time for you, we appreciate all your hard work.
Tracy
@The Hellmouth, if that's the names given by Lego, then use those names, BL certainly doesn't have copyright over names they took from elsewhere.
Variants of the same character can have the primary name with the distinguishing feature(s) put in brackets. For example Yoda can have:
- Yoda (Santa outfit)
- Yoda (NY I Heart Torso)
It would be nice to have them all standardised if we could. Perhaps we can systematise the descriptions in the following order: hairpiece description, followed by head/face description, followed by torso and arms description, followed by legs description, followed by any other remarkable feature description. Basically, top to bottom.
If BO uses a standardised system that it can call its own then there can be no issue about copying/stealing IP from the other site.
So HP038 could be Harry Potter (Tousled Hair, Yellow Head, Sand Green Sweater, Blue Legs). That's far away enough from BL's description, which is Harry Potter, Sand Green Sweater Torso, Blue Legs.
Alternatively, to the extent possible, we can use the names from the Character Encyclopedias or Lego Sticker Books or other publicly published material endorsed by TLG. This would cover Star Wars, Ninjago, Batman, and some others. Again, this would nullify any claim that the nomenclature had been copied from BL. Second of all, there is a possibility that some mothers who want to buy minifigs for their kids might try to search the internet based on these materials.
Just my suggestion.
With regards to Harry Potter, rather than putting lots of detail in the name, if there is a common name that is in context for example " Harry Potter with Quidditch Outfit", I prefer that to a detailed description of the colour of all the components. Detail component descriptions can go in the variant description field which will appear as a bullet pointed list on the item.
I'll try my hand at Ninjago and whatever I can do for Star Wars. Some of my name edit requests have been approved, but I can't seem to see any changes to the catalog? Perhaps I am doing something wrong?
For Super Heroes, should I try to re-categorise them under Super Heroes as they are currently uncategorised? Or is there a way for you to mass edit them back into the propert category?
Same as other people have said though, I do not want to submit something that has already been submitted, sooooo I will start by taking a look at what I have submitted and see what has and has not been approved and take it from there.
Thanks for making me feel guilty all you contributors \m/
Keep up the good work guys and girls and @admin.
Plan on going to connectors and standard now that I have sleep and coffee.
It would be easy to start over but if people have them for sale now....
While I remember to say it , instead of putting it off again, and I know you are busy, but on rejected catalog submissions, could there be a way they could be thrown back at the submitter so they can see what needs alteration, then it would be much quicker to amend & resubmit, and keep track.
A button on the catalog contributions page or something along those lines to view rejected ones and amend or delete as necessary.
Thank you.
Also I think that if Lawrence has made a minor alteration to the submission it sets the submission to rejected?? Not sure on that just a theory.
Brian
And once I would have had the chance to review the reason and learn from my mistake, I would like the ability to "archive" the rejected submission point so that I am not reminded of it every time I view my contribution page - sort of like archiving a completed transaction on eBay.
It may be a lot of work to develop a system like this and to maintain the communication, but I believe it would pay huge dividends down the road. And it would be one more way this site could set itself apart from its competitor.
In the future you will be able to see a list of exactly what has been approved and disapproved. Basically, I will never reject something without giving a reason just because I don't like it or disagree with it, I will only do it when I think there is no benefit to the user to give a reason.
On tags for minifigs/animals, etc., should we add set numbers? Set names? What are you looking for, what are you not?
Edited to add: Just saw you sent me a message about that. So no adding sets and set numbers. Any other guidelines?
Thanks!
Tracy
One usage that is quite cool, some people put the actors name of the character. Or if there is a word that is often misspelled, or a foreign spelling of the word (us/uk english), or a different word that means the same thing.
If I end up making more work for you than actually helping just let me know, I promise not to cry too much, LOL.
Sorry if I personally had duplicate submissions, I just kept finding more and more items yesterday that needed sorting, and with them being unnamed/uncategorised and how close in detail a lot of those minifiures were, it was difficult to answer the question 'didn't I just do that one'
I do hope what was approved has helped out though.
However I would hate to be wasting your time if my submissions are no good, and with the catalog points I have already accumulated, I could just retire and give somebody else the chance, although I want to keep helping, and you will have a hard time stopping me unless I am just making a mess.