Related Items Block

DadsAfol

Can we add ability in the catalog to define what shows up as related? I like the block, but it seems too generic - all modified plates are related to all other modified plates? I expect we also need guidelines because there will be different opinions on what "related" means.

For what it's worth, I would say it shoudl be things that normally go together. Browsing for a window? How about some glass or shutters to go with?

Lawrence

This is very basic for now, just based off category. Relationships are a seperate thing, they can be added on the edit tab of items, I need to add more types though and then obviously decide how to display them.

Lawrence

I've added a few more relationship types now and changed your submission to the new glass type. Eventually this data will be used to help buyers. let me know if I should add any more relationship types.

DadsAfol

Those are good. Others I can think of are
Hinge Male/Female
Container/Door&Drawer
Joint Ball/Socket

Is your idea that if relationships exist, they will supersede the generic related items in the same pane? Or are you thinking another separate pane? The right side of the store browse is already getting a little busy. I would pin the store info at the top and put the related items below. but its not that big of a deal.

Lawrence

Okay I've added those ones. I'm thinking of putting it in a panel below the item, possibly several wide blocks with scrolling, one block for each relationship type or something.

nizqam

How about parts that are very much supposed to be used together, like for example 644706 (http://brickowl.com/catalog/lego-transmission-driving-ring-6539#edit-relationships) and 670311 (http://brickowl.com/catalog/lego-technic-axle-connector-ridged-x-hole-6538)? Such parts could be nice to create a relationship between, since they are often less useful without the related part.

catbricks

Also torsos and legs with matching decoration, please.

DagsBricks

6539 looks like greebles to me and 6538 is used in many other places than just technic transmissions.

Just my 2c/2p

Brian

walstib

I hear you point Brian.

I still do think after going through Technic some sort of mechanical relationship, like the driving ring mentioned and it's extension if not that mentioned connector, would be nice to have. 32187

Both can be used with great imagination but were designed to be used together as far as I know.

Joe

albumman

tires and hubs too

DagsBricks

Wait, are they hubs, rims, or wheels?

nizqam

For example 6538, 6539, 6542, 6641 and 32187 were all designed to be used together and especially the first four are used together in a lot of the Technic sets (e.g. 9396) to allow choosing which function to control.

Adding a relationship for a "designed use" would of course just be a reminder/tip (about one possible usage) and doesn't stop you from using the related parts in other ways.

Lawrence

I had thought this kind of information could go in the description, information about clever uses, tips and tricks etc. Any relevant information really.

nizqam

Linking directly to another catalogue item could boost sales as well.

walstib

@admin Can a link be put into the description?

Maybe go further and combine my idea in another thread to have pictures of these assemblies with this relational thinking and have links to all the parts used?

http://brickowl.com/forum#/discussion/697/adding-pictures-showing-how-things-are-used

Lawrence

You can put links in the description but the editor isn't working so you'd have to do the html code. Pictures showing how things can be used is a bit more complex, something for me to think about another day.

walstib

Wait, are they hubs, rims, or wheels?

I vote for rims...

When I think out loud

The rim is attached to the hub of a vehicle and the assembly of tire and rim is a wheel.

Nathvw

Being from the UK I vote for wheels and tyres, again this related to the English / American English discussion, so maybe alternative names could be built into the auto translate as well as alternative spellings somehow??

Just a thought.

walstib

@Nathvw

Curiously

How would you say "The wheel is attached to the hub of a vehicle and the assembly of tyre and wheel is a ????.

Wagon wheels are assembled for example, not that you can take then apart, but what are they called?

Joe

minithingsforlife

walstib. English is so weird.

Basically we use hub and wheel to mean the same thing, but when talking about the assembly, we call that a wheel too, but never heard anyone in the uk call them wheels.

albumman

"rims" would be my preference too...though hubs is not unreasonable. Wheels is ambiguous and too recursive for this discussion :-)

Nathvw

Can I throw into the pot, this site was built in the UK therefore should in theory be written in English, just like BL was built in US and is written in American. Just wondering if that should be taken into consideration.

Wheels and tyres or a wheel and tyre, wheel being one wheel without a tyre and also wheel being an assembly of one mounted tyre on one wheel which are mostly known in the catalog as 'wheel with tyre' which is fine as it is an assembly.

Being a car restorer and collector I know what I know them as, but I agree they may need to be universally known so as not to cause confusion, so that anybody could easily search and find what they are looking for.

Maybe the question should be what are they called in the original Lego catalog, I think that is what should be used.

http://brickowl.com/catalog/lego-wheels-and-tyres-set-6118

@Lawrence your opinion please before I dig myself any deeper

catbricks

Lawrence - are you actually allowing HTML codes? Scary...

Lawrence

I don't know which I prefer, I don't have an opinion on it.

@Catbricks We don't allow full html, it's a filtered subset. I'm not going to open us up to XSS like BL

Nathvw

@Lawrence feel free to delete my posts if my comments were not valid, I don't mind, should I not have posted that link? only trying to help, I will go back to catalog editing and ignore the forum if I am of more use there >-