The catalog is kinda wacko.

jamesuniverse

Who in the world added all these? If so, every single one of them should be removed except the Duplo plate.

If they were added by the API, that needs to be fixed.

If they were added by a person, what on earth happened?

~JU

jamesuniverse

Doh! Link: http://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-parts?color=156

Markyd7

Are you talking about the images?

Stragus

I think he's talking about having a bunch of basic bricks in color Warm Yellowish Orange, bricks that don't come in any inventory and with no images. I have never heard of that color either.

misbi

Is it AKA light orange?

Stragus

It's not Light Orange or Bright Light Orange, it's some other color:
http://www.brickowl.com/colors
and it doesn't correspond to any known color in other databases.

I think it's slightly wacko indeed.

robernat

Don't think he's talking about the images, rather about the color. Warm yellowish orange is the same as light orange (as far as I can tell) and so could be removed from the catalog indeed.
Thing is, there are more examples of this in many other entries, as the system creates any part in any color (if the color exists in the database)
For example:
http://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-shoulder-length-hair-with-center-parting-4530-96859

When you look at the colors, there are 10, if one looks at the top line 'buy' 'comes in' 'colors'
then you see 13, if you click on the '13', 3 more colors appear, 2 of which I just created (dark azure and modulex olive green) by adding them to my whislist.

It's not there yet (moment of posting):
http://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-parts?color=32
but when one looks at that color, it also contains a minifig helmet, minifig hips and legs and a gammorean guard head, these got created by people adding them into their whislist.
example:
http://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-modulex-olive-green-minifig-helmet-army

Admins intend is good in that matter, it allows to quickly create a new color for a certain item, and add a picture for it, so handy for contributors, but 'ignorant' people do not realise it generates that item in that color in the database. Result: thousands of items that do not exist in a certain color are generated and mistakenly become a known color (when using the colortab), sure, not attached to any set, oftenly not a picture, but they still become part of that 'color'.
It is IMHO not a good move, as in the long run it will clutter up the catalog, generate errors from sellers (who will list by mistake these items in those colors). Whishlist colors and known colors should be kept appart IMO.

I'm also not in favor of adding Ldraw images of items that do not exist (untill proven the contrary) in certain colors.
http://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-blue-platform-16-x-16-x-2-1-3-ramp
This is just one recent example, but there are hundreds like that :-(
It just doesn't look right I'm afraid, and the more the site allows such, the more it will become an 'unreliable' database...

Eric

Markyd7

Who in the world added all these? If so, every single one of them should be removed except the Duplo plate.

If they were added by the API, that needs to be fixed.

If they were added by a person, what on earth happened?

~JU

I thought they meant colour at first. But they say everyone should be removed except the plate. Which is the only one with a photo!

Just in case it is the images. They're a default image when no photo has been supplied.

jamesuniverse

So if one starts adding 1 of every color for every part in the catalog, the catalog will be doomed. Any resolution?

~JU

Stragus

I bow to RobErNat's superior knowledge of the catalog!

I think most people will agree that parts in specific colors should only exist in the catalog when:
- A seller offers them for sale
Or
- A set inventory has them listed

Any thoughts on the matter, Lawrence?

Lawrence

I have a planned system to "hide" the "incorrect" colors, but I haven't implemented it.

Oldfan

Maybe when people are adding colors, they should refer to this page: http://www.brickowl.com/colors and note that the BO color names are not the same names that LEGO themselves call the colors...

I understand why the fan sites like BO have color names that are different than the official LEGO colors, but it definitely gets confusing at times. Anyway, everyone should take care to note whether their color in question is a BO/BL color or a TLG color, and strive to reconcile the differences before adding parts to the catalog. Maybe there could be a pop-up message or something when people are adding parts to the catalog, to ask them to please double-check that the colors they are adding make sense in this context?

Pikachu3

Thanks for posting this James

Warm Yellowish Orange is an obscure color, unrelated to Light Orange:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/126975831@N07/14999163358/in/photolist-oRqCGN-pdWuTY

Maybe I should add the BrickOwl color names to my list?
www.ryanhowerter.com/colors

Ryan

robernat

Actually, the baseplate that has a picture is attached to a set.
http://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-warm-yellowish-orange-duplo-plate-8-x-16-6490

If one compares to the BL inventory, it is listed as an alternate and called Light Orange. This plate in this color was added as alternate by a formal BL inventory admin, so I think it may be considered correct, so my reason to believe this is a Light orange plate.

jamesuniverse

Actually, the baseplate that has a picture is attached to a set.
http://www.brickowl.com/catalog/lego-warm-yellowish-orange-duplo-plate-8-x-16-6490

If one compares to the BL inventory, it is listed as an alternate and called Light Orange. This plate in this color was added as alternate by a formal BL inventory admin, so I think it may be considered correct, so my reason to believe this is a Light orange plate.

Ryan has spent tons of time refining this color chart. He can compare the light orange parts he have to the Duplo part and they will be different. The Duplo plate is the only known part that comes in a set for that color.
~JU

robernat

@jamesuniverse
When I look at the colorguide on BL, there are 18 parts in Light Orange and the (alternate) baseplate of set 4689 is one of them...

jamesuniverse

@jamesuniverse
When I look at the colorguide on BL, there are 18 parts in Light Orange and the (alternate) baseplate of set 4689 is one of them...

The BrickLink catalog is not complete. If Bricklink had every color, sellers would go crazy when they didn't know what color to list it as. Warm Yellowish Orange is combined with light orange on Bricklink.

~JU

Pikachu3

Yes, that baseplate (and some parts exclusive to LegoLand parks) is the only piece that ever came in Warm Yellowish Orange. BrickLink does not recognize this color, so it lumps the baseplate in with "Light Orange".

The TLG equivalent to BrickLink's "Light Orange" is Medium Yellowish Orange. Here is a photo comparing these colors:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ltdemartinet/14769315565/

Hoddie

It's good to have experts on board

jamesuniverse

Any update on this? There a ton of parts that

1. No one is selling, but are in the catalog.
2. Some sellers are selling incorrectly.

~JU