Feedback Suggestion.

Pretty new here and so far business as been great. Seem to have an issue with customers not leaving feedback. For a new seller like me this is a very, very important step in getting off the ground and getting new clients. Most of my buyers seem to be new themselves so they either seem to be just buying and leaving or not really sure how to do the feedback yet... or could just careless as its no affect to them. So i got 2 ways to fix this issue... pretty sure im not the only one to notice this.

#1 (Bit Harsh). If a buyer as over 5 items they have not left feed back for they cant make another purchase till they leave feedback for those items.

#2 (I Prefer This). After a given amount of time... lets say.. 30-60 days. If the buyer has NOT left the seller feedback the seller automatically gets positive feedback for that sell. This is plenty of time for the buyer to make any complaints, or give negative feedback if any issues are found with the purchase.

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  • I have had about 500 transactions on both bricklink and Ebay. Both sites I have gotten about 200 feedback actually posted. Just the way it is.... Cant force people to leave feedback like that. Some people just dont do that. As long as you are not getting negatives..there isnt anything to worry about.
  • Im not trying to force them... like i said i prefer method #2, No reason we still cant get feed back if there aren't any issues with the transaction just because the buyer don't want to take time to do it. Feedback is there for a reason, if you don't have a lot of it what you do got makes an impact. If it wasn't anything to worry about.. the system wouldn't be here.
  • It is there for negatives. What you should be worrying about is store variety, store size and quality. Those 3 things will get you sales, not your feedback.
  • Really? When i go to ebay i don't buy from users with no feedback. i want to read good just as much has bad. If its only for bad then why isn't it just negative feedback? why positive also?

    Sites like this have positive/natural/negative feedback for a reason. Its not just "negative" feedback. people use this for a reason. If you want to explain to the author of this site what he really means with his own site then please start another thread.
  • If you want to explain to the author of this site what he really means with his own site then please start another thread.
    Now now, let's keep it friendly. It's important to have critical comments of suggestions so they can be evaluated properly.


    I intend to at some point change how the feedback system works so it takes account of orders that have not had any feedback left after a certain period of time. This is on the development list.
  • Automated feedback is not feedback at all. It is just an order counter. And it says something to me as a buyer if most other buyers were not impressed enough with a seller to leave them feedback. Thus, a seller with a high order count but low feedback score comes across to me as meh, nothing special.

    If this site does choose to have automated feedback, please make it so buyers can easily distinguish between the real feedback and the automated feedback.

    Thor

  • Just to clarify, there won't be system created feedback, that wouldn't be feedback like you say.
  • edited January 2014 Vote Up0Vote Down
    You're right, Feedback ist very low here.

    In my opinion this happens, because BO is more a shopping site like amazon or something else and not a community site like BL.
    The customers have a look, buy, pay instantly and hope they will get the order soon.

    My suggestion is to generate an automatic Email to the customer, who don't left feedback and ask if he was pleased with the order and would like to left feedback.
    Amazon also sends me Emails and asks for product feedback, why not here?

  • Amazon also sends me Emails and asks for product feedback, why not here?
    Because it's one of the most annoying ways to get attention. Specially if you receive dozens of emails a day. At least for me.

    (BO: 170 orders 28 FB, BL: 580 orders 480 FB.)

    In my opinion this site is different. (Positive) feedback is not as important.
  • Why change the set system if it is not broken? I've had to earn my store feedback/reputation. I started my store with No feedback on the other place and had to earned what I have. Why should someone new to any site be given feedback without first earning it.

    If your customer is not leaving you feedback: Take that as a warning that you need to do more to satisfy them to earn the feedback you desire. How long does it take you to pull and ship an order? Maybe it is taking you too long. Are you filling your orders accurately? If not, what action(s) do you take to satisfy the customer?

    When I shop in stores or for products, I look at the reputation or review before ordering. If the reputation is not good; I usually shop in a different store. Yes, it took time to show success, but it was earned by me and I'm proud of my accomplishment. A easily achieved score that is not earned is an empty accomplishment (or rather no accomplishment at all). And it would provide false reassurance for a potential customer that your store is trustworthy of receiving their business.

    Lawrence, please leave the feedback system the way it is since, again, it is not broken.
    Melissa
  • I am glad you got upset Eric, over the best advice anyone in this thread has given you.

    I have bought and sold Lego for 10 years. If you are already getting upset over someone simply giving you advice, then already you have failed and will not be able to run a successful Lego parts business.

    Quit now.

    I could give you more tips and tricks to get buyers to give you feedback.

    But I am done.

    Good luck.
  • edited January 2014 Vote Up0Vote Down
    And since I am somewhat of a jerk when it comes to idiots...

    "(Bit Harsh). If a buyer as over 5 items they have not left feed back for they cant make another purchase till they leave feedback for those items."

    That is simply flat out DUMB.

    Sorry I'm not sorry.

    Lets make a small site smaller by preventing buyers from buying cause your crappy service was not good enough to receive a positive score. THINK buddy. THINK.

    Oh and hello Melissa, I have bought from you a ton off bricklink! <3

    Guess what Eric, she got positive feedback from me every time due to her EXCELLENT SERVICE.
  • @mikeymase This isn't a place for personal attacks, keep it friendly.
  • Sorry, go ahead and delete it if you like.
  • I dont even have the option to delete it. Weird.
  • I think an order counter would be good, in addition to being able to leave a feedback note about the order.
  • I too would like to receive feedback more often. It is not important per se but I find that customers who leave feedback also mark their orders as received and I really like to know that the orders I ship get to the destination. But of course, I suppose no news is good news.

    I still think that if stores had the opportunity to include a piece of text in the shipping notification email offering an incentive (coupons) to the customer for marking the order as received and/or leaving feedback the numbers would go up.

    I think it is on Lawrence's list but I agree that there are more important things to do first. Ultimately, the less complicated it is to the customer, the more orders (s)he will place.
  • If your customer is not leaving you feedback: Take that as a warning that you need to do more to satisfy them to earn the feedback you desire. How long does it take you to pull and ship an order? Maybe it is taking you too long. Are you filling your orders accurately? If not, what action(s) do you take to satisfy the customer?
    Not to brag but my orders are flawless, I make it right per customer's preference when they're not, and I ship same or next day including international.

    Not sure how I can make it better other than to ship before the order comes in. I think the feedback is just different here.

    Brian

  • edited January 2014 Vote Up0Vote Down
    I am trying to remember if I have ever seen a thread with buyers complaining that sellers don't have enough feedback.
  • I feel that the largest companies in the world, ebay, amazon etc would have thought this up already. But I am sure the people that are A LOT smarter than us at marketing deemed something like this to be a problem. You cant put peoples opinions in there for them, that will just cause people to leave.

    My thoughts on a "number or orders" system. What if it says you have 1000 orders in your store and you only have 500 feedback. This will lead people to believe that 500 of your transactions were not good enough to get feedback...

    Some people are just busy...forget to do it...we have many people here buying Lego twice a year...

    I think its just the way it goes.

    Absolute best advice is to make something to put into every order asking the customer in your own nice way to leave you feedback. That is all we can do, I think.

    Mikey
  • Excellent post Melissa. I also agree the system is not broken and does not need any fixing. Feedback is earned and there are no quick easy shortcuts around that. With time, you will eventually earn the feedback you deserve.

    I strongly disagree with the idea of forcing or automating feedback. And an order counter, like I said, can be a negative thing if it far outpaces your feedback. If anything should be done, it is to make it more easy for buyers to leave feedback. I don't think the buyers are so different here than they are on BL. Yet BL buyers leave feedback 80% of the time versus only 20% of the time here on BO. It is not because the buyers are different. It is because BO is different. IMO, it just is not as easy or intuitive how to leave feedback here. And if you don't make it REAL easy, most buyers are not going to bother making the effort. It may also help if the time to leave feedback were more than 60 days.

    Thor
  • Why change the set system if it is not broken? I've had to earn my store feedback/reputation. I started my store with No feedback on the other place and had to earned what I have. Why should someone new to any site be given feedback without first earning it.
    How in any way am i saying just "give" sellers free feedback? So if i sell 2 items and a customer leaves feedback on one item and the other customer doesn't that means i did nothing to deserve feedback even though i did the same thing? The auto feedback isn't giving you feedback for orders you never sold, or orders that receive negative or natural feedback. Im not sure what your reading.

    I am in shock that this is getting so much negative attention. If a user leaves you no feedback then after 2-3 months the system give you auto positive since no complaints where filed... is that really such a terrible idea? How on earth does this also mean "you didnt earn it".. just because the buyer is lazy and don't leave feedback in no way means you worked an less than the user that left you positive feedback. wtf.
    Absolute best advice is to make something to put into every order asking the customer in your own nice way to leave you feedback. That is all we can do, I think.
    Actually i had another idea you been complaining about it this whole time.
    I am trying to remember if I have ever seen a thread with buyers complaining that sellers don't have enough feedback.
    Thats because they just go buy from someone else. Look how many stores are on this site why make a post about it? just go to another store. Whats shocking is sellers complaining about getting feedback they earned.

    I think an order counter would be good, in addition to being able to leave a feedback note about the order.
    This would also be nice.
  • Automatic feedback *IS* giving you feedback you don't deserve. For one thing, it assumes the buyer is "lazy" and that the lack of feedback was not deliberate. I know there are many times when buyers deliberately choose NOT to leave feedback. Either because they were not impressed enough with the transaction or there was a problem but they prefer not to say anything bad if they can't say anything good. Or because they are afraid of getting retaliatory feedback. For another thing, feedback is optional and one has to *WANT* to leave feedback in order to give it and for such feedback to have any meaning. If your buyers WANT to give you feedback, they will.

    Personally, I think it is very insulting to think your buyers are too "lazy" to give you feedback. I also think it is a terrible idea to assume that just because they intentionally or unintentionally do not give you feedback, you automatically "deserve" positive feedback from such buyers.

    Thor
  • So its wrong for me to assume if they didnt leave negative feedback the transation was ok... but its ok for you to assume if they dont leave any feedback... i did a bad job?

    I always leave feedback first so buyers dont think they will get negative feedback depending on how they rate me... but its ok for you to assume things...
  • Why make any assumptions at all? Giving automatic positive feedback ASSUMES the transaction was positive for the buyer. We don't know that.

    But let's compromise...

    I can agree to let sellers opt into receiving automatic feedback *IF* that feedback is neutral. Since we cannot just assume the buyer would have left either positive or negative feedback, let's play it safe and say the buyer felt neutral or meh about the order. If the buyer felt strongly enough one way or the other about the order they would have left feedback, right? So by not leaving feedback they must not really care enough one way or the other. Sounds like a neutral to me.

    Thor
  • Your idea was that of a newbie. No fense. But you seriously don't have a clue. If you think that the 5 sales you've had left feedback would automatically start generating orders for you, then again. You don't have a clue.
  • Also, notice how this is the only thread on the list that has a negative rating? Let alone a -9 lol...

    Move on dude.
  • Also, notice how this is the only thread on the list that has a negative rating? Let alone a -9 lol...
    I'm noticing some other onlys in regard to his thread as well. Just sayin'...

  • I think this thread has run its course.
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